[SASAG] Even more init processes to learn...

lamont at scriptkiddie.org lamont at scriptkiddie.org
Thu Oct 5 19:10:56 PDT 2006


I fondly recall yelling at newbies to trim their posts and how they were 
costing a bazillion dollars in bandwidth charges to everyone who got a 
Usenet feed...

I gave up a long time ago...

On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, spam wrote:
> I have the same opinion - particularly in email. I want the most recent
> part of the thread at the top, and I'll scroll down for reference if
> needed. If you guys can't live with it, kick me off the list; nobody
> else complains anywhere else.
>
> -TProphet
>
> Matthew Radey wrote:
>> Over the years I've heard a number of people speak as if the idea that
>> "top-posting sucks" is obviously correct, but the conclusive proof is
>> lacking. Let's not have a point-counterpoint thread on this please, but
>> just for fun try being your own very sincere devil's advocate (try
>> hard!) and you'll surely come up with some good arguments in favor of
>> top posting.
>>
>> I find that for long threads, top-posting is probably not the best
>> route. I find that for short threads, especially in rapid e-mail
>> exchanges, top-posting makes for faster, better reading. Most of all I
>> find that vast numbers of people don't care one iota about where the
>> post is and never will, and it's hopelessly naive to think that some
>> sort of conversion to bottom-posting or any other method will happen
>> among them.
>>
>> Sorry, I had to intentionally top-post as an illustration in this case.
>> Doesn't it make it more difficult for those who fastidiously bottom-post
>> to respond, as they can't help but spend the extra time cutting out all
>> that text below? This can be useful sometimes, exactly the desired result.
>>
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>> Rich Alderson wrote:
>>> Some top-poster wrote
>>>
>>>> Sounds like you propose a "cathedral" to me. Eric Raymond would not approve!
>>> ESR is a twit who never had an original thought in his life.
>>>
>>> Sometimes cathedrals are necessary, providing centers around which bazaars can
>>> develop.
>>>
>>>> FWIW, I suspect Microsoft wholeheartedly approves of Unix variants
>>>> forking themselves infinitely...
>>>   ^^^^^^^
>>>
>>> You *almost* got the verb right...
>>>
>>>> -TProphet
>>> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
>>> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
>>> A: Top-posting.
>>> Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
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