[SASAG] New Data Facility in Lynnwood
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Fri Mar 30 14:06:21 PDT 2007
Lots of fun to stop by yesterday, and when it's done, I'm sure this will
shape up into being a great facility. My observations:
- Facility is a former REI building which was built using lots of
(combustible) wood. Pleasant to look at, but I worry a lot more about
fire control in a building like this.
- Corollary: fire control is a sprinkler system (water). Yikes! Not sure
whether there are plans to replace this? Hope so...
- Racks are powered and HVAC is configured for high density. Each rack
can draw over 9000W apiece with adequate cooling (configured with
hot/cold row inline refrigeration). However, backup generator currently
installed (Cummins diesel) can supply only .5MW. NetRiver says that they
plan to scale backup generation capacity as their racks are populated.
- Not sure how much fuel is on hand or storage capacity/run time.
NetRiver was pretty confident in their fuel service contract, but in an
emergency, this won't be worth the paper it's written on. Just ask the
- Currently connected to Snohomish PUD, but only on one grid. Redundant
grid connection is in the works, but not installed yet, leaving the
facility vulnerable to localized outages in the interim.
- Fiber to Westin Building via Global Crossing. 30Gbps theoretical
capacity, but only one strand is lit. I understand (although was
skeptical to hear this--is it really this bad?) that there is no
redundant connectivity of any sort into the building. Being one backhoe
incident away from disaster definitely isn't somewhere I'd want to put
- Access controls are pretty relaxed, and collocation isn't in locked
cages. This isn't necessarily a problem, as long as all visitors to the
facility are escorted and monitored throughout their visit. However, it
might be hard to scale this security approach if it gets busy.
- Emergency exit door does not appear to be alarmed, and is a vulnerable
- Facility supports the use of seismic base isolation platforms.
Although NetRiver sells this gear, they don't appear to use it on their
own racks. A tepid endorsement at best. :)
- Shared hosting blade server is connected to a small HP SAN (can scale
to 30TB, built out to 1TB now). The SAN was installed by an HP
consultant so I assume it was configured properly, but I couldn't tell
whether there were redundant HBAs on the blade server (I couldn't see
from outside, and didn't want to open up their rack and start poking
around). Prior to purchasing a VPS or blade from NetRiver, informed
consumers should probably ask for more details.
The CEO of NetRiver announced that, having successfully completed this
facility (although "completed" is perhaps debatable based on the above
noted concerns), he's already planning to build another one. Clearly,
NetRiver wants to grow rapidly; potential customers should be cognizant
of the growing pains this can entail.
Overall, the facility is about 90% complete at this point, and I think
it'll be really nice when it's done and fully staffed (they're still
short a couple of NOC technicians).
Josh Fulleton wrote:
> Thanks for all the hype! It will be a great event, and I am looking
> forward to meeting some of you.
> Don't hesitate to give me a call in the future if you can't make it, I
> will be more than happy to give private tours.
> Josh Fulleton - Account Manager
> NetRiver Corporation
> 425-741-7014 Office
> 425-967-0066 Direct Desk
> -----Original Message-----
> From: members-bounces at lists.sasag.org
> [mailto:members-bounces at lists.sasag.org] On Behalf Of Jim Hogan
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 5:46 PM
> To: Josh Fulleton
> Cc: members at lists.sasag.org
> Subject: Re: [SASAG] New Data Facility in Lynnwood
> I am going to do my best to attend.
> I just wanted to help out a bit -- do what I could to raise expectations
> On 3/26/07, Josh Fulleton <josh.fulleton at netriver.net> wrote:
>> I am not exactly sure what APC is going to be giving away as of yet.
>> Once I find out I will be sure to post exactly what. I know there are
>> going to be some nice items that will be raffled off. Overall it is
>> going to be a great event to network with people, get some free food,
>> and also learn more about what we are up to over here in Lynnwood.
>> Josh Fulleton
>> NetRiver Corporation
>> 425-741-7014 Office
>> 425-967-0066 Direct Desk
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: members-bounces at lists.sasag.org
>> [mailto:members-bounces at lists.sasag.org] On Behalf Of Jim Hogan
>> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 11:15 AM
>> To: Josh Fulleton
>> Cc: members at lists.sasag.org
>> Subject: Re: [SASAG] New Data Facility in Lynnwood
>> Awesome. I love coffee mugs. Now did you say that you are having a
>> drawing for a custom SUA1500 with included AP9617 and a custom
>> silk-screened front panel with blue LED status lights? I am
>> *definitely* driving to Lynnwood if that rumor is correct.
>> On 3/23/07, Josh Fulleton <josh.fulleton at netriver.net> wrote:
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> I am new to this list and want to first start by
>>> hello. So Hello! Anyways, I want to let everyone know that the
>> company I
>>> work for is having an Grand Opening next week, and guess what, you
>>> invited. This is an APC sponsored event so there will be lots free
>>> and beverages, not to mention tours of our brand new High Density
>>> We will be doing live presentations, Tours, Q&A Sessions, and
>>> The first 600 people will receive an APC/Netriver Mug so come early
>>> sure you get one!
>>> We will are RSVPing so if you want to come fill out our online form
>>> if not don't worry about it just show up, see below for the details:
>>> Thursday, March 29th , 2007 1:00pm - 8:30pm
>>> Ribbon cutting at 3pm, Seminar presented at 6pm
>>> The NetRiver Building
>>> 4200 194th Street SW
>>> Lynnwood, WA 98036
>>> Ground Floor
>>> Josh Fulleton
>>> NetRiver, Inc.
>>> 425-741-7014 Office
>>> Members mailing list
>>> Members at lists.sasag.org
>> -*- Jim Hogan
>> Seattle, WA
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